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How to avoid one of the biggest vector mistakes by Austiniousi How to avoid one of the biggest vector mistakes by Austiniousi
I just threw this together because I see so many vectors that look great, but stumble here. It can make the vector look much less "Professional" then it could.
Hope it helps in some way or another :)
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Cider-Crave Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2015  Hobbyist Filmographer
Does this also apple to the chin of the character?
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Showlover Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
well i did not know that
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LillyGeneva Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014  Student Digital Artist
This may be in my own sorta style, but how does this look? lillygeneva.deviantart.com/art… You can go ahead and tell me what I need to fix on it, cuz I really wanna be the very best when it comes to art.
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a-jewel-of-rarity Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh wow, thanks a bunch this may be a small thing but i'm sure it will help improve the look of my vectors ^^
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nialleririshgirl Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
what about ms paint?
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mynameiswaifu Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2015
MS Paint isn't too apporiate for making vectors
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Rykester Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014
But what if I draw ponies by stroke and not fill?
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felicityannebolaton Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Student Digital Artist
make another layer and put the fill there,put the layer below the outline
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Rykester Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2014
I meant how could I top off the legs like that with stroke instead of fill
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frenchifries Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2014  Student
well i know in illustrator you can select the stroke, then go to object>path>outline stroke.
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felicityannebolaton Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2014  Student Digital Artist
No idea
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Glow-fly Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is so useful! Thank you!
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ChirotornBrony Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
¡¡ESTOY POR HACER MI PRIMER PONIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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roxy-cream Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
now i know why i feel insatisfy with my vectors thanks for the info.
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Juvelqairth Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Earl Lemongrab and Patchy the pirate sayeth:
:iconlemongrab::iconsaysplz:This is ACCEPTABLE hints. I'll put this information into my favorite.:iconsaysendplz:
:iconpatchythepirateplz::iconsaysplz:SHIVER ME TIMBERS, this is good idea.:iconsaysendplz:
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skbl17 Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2013
Thanks for the very informative tutorial, it helped immensely!
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MightyTheBlue Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2013  Hobbyist
Cool! Thank you! Helped a lot! :D
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HaloPrime Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
TIL. Thanks :D!
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kanbazia Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
thank you I learn something I didn't know by this tutorial. thank You very Much Austiniousi
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guille-x3 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
All this time and I wasn't aware of the mistake... Thanks for the tip! :)
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decoherence Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Good tip!
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FoxyCrosses Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Gameloft made this mistake in their latest title screen for the mobile FiM game. Go look for a screenshot yourself, guys!
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Tr1nks1e Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Thanks! Great help!!
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Kerenos61 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer

Erhm, AJ with  Raritys' tail and Pinkie with a new hairut..?

:o (Eek) 

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Brohoof-Ninja Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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Kerenos61 Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Makes much more sense now... :I
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Starlyk Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The only issue I have with this is that it paints a picture saying "All vectors made without thsi extra point are wrong, wrong wrong wrong, and you should feel bad for it."

of course I know I'd taking it more negativly than is presented, but it does leave a small sting and is extra picky.
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ShilaDaLioness Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I always do my vectors like the "wrong" pictures just because I think it looks smoother and more pretty. Then again, I don't do traces from the show, so there's no need to be 100%  show-accurate.
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Austiniousi Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't know where you got that idea, I said this is how the show does it and its really easy to do, if you want a show accurate vector then that is how to do it. If doing it that was is your style then go for it. I'm talking about show accuracy and you do have to be meticulous with that (Like MLP-Vector-Club does)
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Starlyk Featured By Owner Sep 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It doesn't always do it. :P
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Austiniousi Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
hm?
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Infinitoa Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a matter of preference when it comes to art. For traces it's accurate, yes.
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dashofrainbow235 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Hobbyist Filmographer
Yeah, God knows I make this mistake all the time.
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ChainChomp2 Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
It's actually pretty true, you know.  I don't see why some people are so dismissive of this just because of the title.  Depending which side of the line you point it's pretty impossible to get a good line with a constant stroke width unless you add a node/anchor somewhere on the line near the top.  A while ago I went back through my early vectors that had the problem and re-did them similarly to what's shown.
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killersteel Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
Speaking of the damned outlines, how do you get them to look so consistent? That is seriously the one damn problem I'm having with art. It is pissing me off to no end.

I'm using GIMP 2.7, and have a tablet. I know my way around the pen tool, it's just getting those points is a bitch since I have to use a select by path method, and I'm pretty fast with my art. Is the only solution really just being patient, or is there a way to get the select box down to a certain width?
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TidalMewMew Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
For Gimp. go around the middle of the line with the paths tool, do it in chunks like front leg, body, head, hind leg, ect. After you've got it all set up with the paths tool, go to the lil paintbrush on the paths window and it'll let you stroke the path, you can choose the thickness depending on the size of the picture. This won't work for eyes really. Also, layers are your best friend, make sure you put things like the 'skin' and the mane/tail on different layers than each other. 
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killersteel Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Those are really basic tips, mind you, except for the bit about the 'Stroke Path'. Tapering is my issue when it comes to outlining, since everything else is, honestly, 'follow the sketch'.

How do you get tapering with the Path tool?
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TidalMewMew Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You don't really I don't think. There's this nice trick if you hold shift while using the eraser tool, it will erase in a straight line. You could try that, it's what I do.
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killersteel Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013
Huh... no kiddin'?
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TidalMewMew Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
No foolin'! just click, the hold shift and click the spot where you want the line to follow.
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killersteel Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013
Son of a bitch... I'll have to try that!
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TidalMewMew Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Let me know how it works for you!
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Austiniousi Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I use photoshop so I cant really give much advice on the nuts-and-bolts of GIMP, but patients is a big one :)
I often set the bg to a solid black or white so I can see the lines more clearly and fix any inconsistencies. Try and keep the points on either side of the stroke parallel
Just be methodical and perfectionist. Though a mouse is much much easier to use with the pen tool then my tablet
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killersteel Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
So it really is just patience and a lot of work. Damn... there's gotta be something...
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Austiniousi Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have a tutorial in my gallery, not sure if it will help, might do 
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killersteel Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013
It kinda did, but it's clear I'm gonna be doing a lot of stuff to get this outline crap right. Still, I did find out how to make an eye, so... that's a good thing.

Show-quality outlines just aren't in the cards for me, though. Not without a way to preserve line width. I'm not really patient enough to ensure that every single line is the same width as the last, since outlines usually take me hours in the first place.
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Austiniousi Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
(Did you see the other tutorial? Not the eye one?)
Well when making lines that don't end in a taper I use the stroke option (on the pen tool) in Photoshop which makes perfectly smooth outlines, usually with a  thickness of about 40 px.
As the line ends squared off they cant be used for tapering lines but are fine for lines where both ends are covered (Eg tail) 
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killersteel Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Yeah, I did see the tapering tutorial. What I'd like is a stroke that tapered itself, but oh well. I guess I could do some kind of hybrid thing... ehhh, but that wouldn't look too good.

Maybe I should just start hunting for alternative art styles. Vectoring's all well and good, but it's not really gonna get anywhere without the more base skills I need.
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mewtwo-EX Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
Sorry to jump in here...
The tutorial here is great! I learned not to do the "old" tapering technique. Now:

GIMP is not a vector program. Neither is Photoshop. The point about stroke width modifications you brought up is solved in Illustrator CS5 (Stroke Width Tool [I know...I need to update my leg tapers!]) and Inkscape (PowerStrokes)!
If you insist on using other programs, try using the "circle method". Create fixed diameter circles and place them around your strokes. Then adjust the handles to match the outside of each circle. A limited example can be seen here.
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AmazeeDaisy Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Plus I don't know how to add gradients to drawings from Photoshop CS5
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